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2023.05.26 14:59 theoryworksprep Mind the Gap: Taking a Gap Year and Law School Admissions
Today, applicants who have taken a ‘gap year' between undergrad and law school—a brief respite before the real journey begins—are probably just as if not more common as their K-JD counterparts. There are many good (and bad) reasons why prospective applicants pause their academic journey to gain so-called ‘real world’ experiences before applying to law school or even taking the LSAT.
The motivations driving this long-term trend vary tremendously. Some wish to gain exposure to the professional realm, others long for a hiatus from academia, while some are motivated by the desire to support a cause they believe in. This raises the question: how does taking a gap year influence law school admissions? Does it enhance an application, or could it introduce complications? Let’s delve into the significance of gap years in the context of the law school admissions process.
Leap of Faith: Upside of Gap Years
One of the primary benefits that come to mind when thinking about gap years is the chance to gain invaluable life and work experience. A gap year presents an opportunity to work, volunteer, or perhaps even undertake a passion project. This ‘real world’ experience often fosters essential skills like problem-solving, time management, and communication, which are all crucial in law school and beyond.
Suppose you utilize your gap year working in a dynamic law firm or an innovative tech startup. This experience could provide an insightful peek into the practical aspects of these industries, enhancing your understanding of the law’s application in real-life situations. This professional exposure can enrich your law school application and demonstrate your dedication to the legal profession. Law schools often value applicants who bring professional experience, as they typically contribute a mature perspective and a distinct viewpoint to class discussions.
Entry-Level Blues
I don't want to overstate the importance of finding meaningful employment or work during your gap year. For example, I had a recent student-client who applied as a splitter to Harvard—below GPA/above LSAT median, nURM with a gap year—and who only found a meaningful professional opportunity in the spring, long after she had applied. She eventually got accepted to HLS, but during her first interview in the fall, she wasn't really doing anything professionally...she had just graduated and finished studying/taking the LSAT. Law schools understand this is common for gap year applicants. Take my advice below with a good dose of perspective.
That being said, I do think they are interested in what you're doing with your time at least later on in the cycle. You want to have a good answer to "So, what have you been up to recently?" Finding meaningful professional work fresh out of college can be a daunting task, however, especially for a Poli Sci major: Typically you will only be qualified for entry-level positions or their equivalents. Although these opportunities offer a stepping stone into the professional world, they may not provide the level of engagement or depth of experience that you might find in volunteer or non-profit work. Many new graduates find themselves doing work involving repetitive tasks that offer little in the way of professional growth or significant learning opportunities. This lack of substantive work can make it difficult for applicants to stand out in a competitive law school admissions cycle, potentially dulling the shine of their professional experience during a gap year. Therefore, it’s important to approach the challenge with a critical eye, seeking out those opportunities that will provide meaningful experiences and contribute positively to a law school application. Often times low-paying civil society or non-profit work in fact has more prestige than fancy, biglaw M&A work.
Hiatus Hangover
Every rose has its thorns, however, and a gap year is no exception. For instance, after a year outside of academia, you may find it challenging to readjust as a 1L. Are you sure you want to go back to being assigned homework again?
Suppose you spend your gap year working for a tech startup, considerably distant from the academic realms of case briefs and moot courts and essays. You are likely to adapt to that lifestyle to some extent. Returning to academia might feel like a shock, akin to jumping into a cold lake after lounging in warm sunshine. This transition can be jarring, and the initial reentry into academic life can be challenging, especially because there is no warm-up lap: Your first year of law school is the most—and perhaps only—important year of law school. A gap year might be a time to catch your breathe before you start the next chapter in your life…but don’t get too comfortable! Additionally, while a gap year often fosters clarity and purpose, these newfound insights can sometimes blur or fade over time. For instance, after experiencing the vibrant world of tech or consulting or media, you might start to realize you don't actually want to pursue law...which isn't a problem, per se, but it is definitely a problem if you realize that halfway through your 1L year.
Gap Years Through the Lens of Admissions Committees
How do law school admissions committees and admission deans perceive gap years? Generally, their stance is neutral or even positive, as long as the gap year has been utilized productively. They focus less on the gap itself and more on the unique blend of skills and experiences you can contribute to their institution. Remember, a protracted hiatus in your academic journey isn’t a problem, but lack of growth during that time might raise eyebrows.
Consider an applicant who devoted their gap year to work for a non-profit organization advocating for educational equity. This experience could benefit their application by demonstrating the applicant’s commitment to public service, their ability to navigate intricate policy issues, and their real-world legal experience, albeit at a grassroots level.
However, the key lies in effectively conveying the value of these experiences in your application. You need to highlight the specific skills you refined, the insights you gleaned, and how these experiences have equipped you for the demands of law school. In the mentioned example, the applicant could stress how their work at the non-profit allowed them to develop negotiation, policy analysis, and public speaking skills. They might also discuss how dealing with the legal challenges confronted by underserved communities offered a profound understanding of law’s societal role and strengthened their ambition to use their legal education to instigate change. It's very cliche, of course, but less so when you have substance to your claim—when you've 'walked the walk,' so to speak.
The Paralegal Paradox
One common gap year role for aspiring law students merits closer examination: working as a paralegal, potentially at a top-tier law firm. Although this might appear to be an ideal method to acquire practical legal experience, it’s important to approach this option with a balanced perspective. It's the obvious 'relevant' work experience...maybe a little too obvious, though.
Working in a prestigious law firm, amidst high-stakes cases and seasoned attorneys, can be enticing. However, the reality of paralegal work, especially in larger firms, can differ substantially. Paralegals often find themselves working long hours on tasks that, while essential, provide little substantive legal experience. The work can be primarily administrative, including document management, scheduling, and other tasks that might not significantly enhance your law school application. Law schools understand the nature of a paralegal’s duties and may not be as impressed as you’d expect. Avoid presuming this is the optimal way to utilize your gap year; it might not be as beneficial as you imagine. If you have paralegal experience, make sure you take the opportunity to learn about the nature of the work the attorneys you interact with daily engage in. The work of a paralegal is not the work of an attorney, but it gives you a close up view of the legal profession if you take the time to look. Your experiences could give credibility to your Why Law? answer, which most applicants, including paralegals, tend to fumble. (See my comments in the discussion below for more on this point.)
Furthermore, the rigorous nature of paralegal work at large firms can encroach on time for other valuable activities, such as studying for the LSAT, crafting your law school application, traveling, or other meaningful experiences you are unlikely to get a chance to pursue once the agonizing torment of...I mean...whoops...the wonderful adventure of 1L begins.
This doesn’t imply that paralegal work lacks value—some indeed find it rewarding and enlightening. However, it’s critical to enter such roles with a clear understanding of the responsibilities involved and realistic expectations about what you’ll gain from the experience. As with any potential gap year activity, evaluate how it aligns with your law school and career goals.
The Final Word: Bridging the Gap and Making it Count
If a gap year is in your future, strategic planning is crucial. Begin by identifying your motivations for a gap year and your expected outcomes. If you’re eager to work, seek roles that align with your interests and provide relevant experiences. If you wish to take a break to travel or pursue other interests, contemplate how these experiences connect back to your law school aspirations.
In short, opting for a gap year before law school is a significant decision with potential advantages and challenges that you should be cognizant of. The actual impact on law school admissions largely relies on how you utilize and present this time in your application.
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Having undergone the law school journey myself after a gap year—and with years of experience as a law school admissions consultant—I’ve come to realize that a lot of people underestimate the impact their gap year experiences can have on their time in law school.
If any of you have questions about the above or if there are other topics you’re curious about, please feel free to ask—e.g. about my own experience, law school admissions, gap years, etc. FWIW, I have a lot of experience working with splitter applicants in particular, for whom I think the non-LSAT/GPA parts of their application are even more important.
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EDIT: In the interest of answering everyone who has messaged me inquiring about our company and our services:
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The motivations driving this long-term trend vary tremendously. Some wish to gain exposure to the professional realm, others long for a hiatus from academia, while some are motivated by the desire to support a cause they believe in. This raises the question: how does taking a gap year influence law school admissions? Does it enhance an application, or could it introduce complications? Let’s delve into the significance of gap years in the context of the law school admissions process.
Leap of Faith: Upside of Gap Years
One of the primary benefits that come to mind when thinking about gap years is the chance to gain invaluable life and work experience. A gap year presents an opportunity to work, volunteer, or perhaps even undertake a passion project. This ‘real world’ experience often fosters essential skills like problem-solving, time management, and communication, which are all crucial in law school and beyond.
Suppose you utilize your gap year working in a dynamic law firm or an innovative tech startup. This experience could provide an insightful peek into the practical aspects of these industries, enhancing your understanding of the law’s application in real-life situations. This professional exposure can enrich your law school application and demonstrate your dedication to the legal profession. Law schools often value applicants who bring professional experience, as they typically contribute a mature perspective and a distinct viewpoint to class discussions.
Entry-Level Blues
I don't want to overstate the importance of finding meaningful employment or work during your gap year. For example, I had a recent student-client who applied as a splitter to Harvard—below GPA/above LSAT median, nURM with a gap year—and who only found a meaningful professional opportunity in the spring, long after she had applied. She eventually got accepted to HLS, but during her first interview in the fall, she wasn't really doing anything professionally...she had just graduated and finished studying/taking the LSAT. Law schools understand this is common for gap year applicants. Take my advice below with a good dose of perspective.
That being said, I do think they are interested in what you're doing with your time at least later on in the cycle. You want to have a good answer to "So, what have you been up to recently?" Finding meaningful professional work fresh out of college can be a daunting task, however, especially for a Poli Sci major: Typically you will only be qualified for entry-level positions or their equivalents. Although these opportunities offer a stepping stone into the professional world, they may not provide the level of engagement or depth of experience that you might find in volunteer or non-profit work. Many new graduates find themselves doing work involving repetitive tasks that offer little in the way of professional growth or significant learning opportunities. This lack of substantive work can make it difficult for applicants to stand out in a competitive law school admissions cycle, potentially dulling the shine of their professional experience during a gap year. Therefore, it’s important to approach the challenge with a critical eye, seeking out those opportunities that will provide meaningful experiences and contribute positively to a law school application. Often times low-paying civil society or non-profit work in fact has more prestige than fancy, biglaw M&A work.
Hiatus Hangover
Every rose has its thorns, however, and a gap year is no exception. For instance, after a year outside of academia, you may find it challenging to readjust as a 1L. Are you sure you want to go back to being assigned homework again?
Suppose you spend your gap year working for a tech startup, considerably distant from the academic realms of case briefs and moot courts and essays. You are likely to adapt to that lifestyle to some extent. Returning to academia might feel like a shock, akin to jumping into a cold lake after lounging in warm sunshine. This transition can be jarring, and the initial reentry into academic life can be challenging, especially because there is no warm-up lap: Your first year of law school is the most—and perhaps only—important year of law school. A gap year might be a time to catch your breathe before you start the next chapter in your life…but don’t get too comfortable! Additionally, while a gap year often fosters clarity and purpose, these newfound insights can sometimes blur or fade over time. For instance, after experiencing the vibrant world of tech or consulting or media, you might start to realize you don't actually want to pursue law...which isn't a problem, per se, but it is definitely a problem if you realize that halfway through your 1L year.
Gap Years Through the Lens of Admissions Committees
How do law school admissions committees and admission deans perceive gap years? Generally, their stance is neutral or even positive, as long as the gap year has been utilized productively. They focus less on the gap itself and more on the unique blend of skills and experiences you can contribute to their institution. Remember, a protracted hiatus in your academic journey isn’t a problem, but lack of growth during that time might raise eyebrows.
Consider an applicant who devoted their gap year to work for a non-profit organization advocating for educational equity. This experience could benefit their application by demonstrating the applicant’s commitment to public service, their ability to navigate intricate policy issues, and their real-world legal experience, albeit at a grassroots level.
However, the key lies in effectively conveying the value of these experiences in your application. You need to highlight the specific skills you refined, the insights you gleaned, and how these experiences have equipped you for the demands of law school. In the mentioned example, the applicant could stress how their work at the non-profit allowed them to develop negotiation, policy analysis, and public speaking skills. They might also discuss how dealing with the legal challenges confronted by underserved communities offered a profound understanding of law’s societal role and strengthened their ambition to use their legal education to instigate change. It's very cliche, of course, but less so when you have substance to your claim—when you've 'walked the walk,' so to speak.
The Paralegal Paradox
One common gap year role for aspiring law students merits closer examination: working as a paralegal, potentially at a top-tier law firm. Although this might appear to be an ideal method to acquire practical legal experience, it’s important to approach this option with a balanced perspective. It's the obvious 'relevant' work experience...maybe a little too obvious, though.
Working in a prestigious law firm, amidst high-stakes cases and seasoned attorneys, can be enticing. However, the reality of paralegal work, especially in larger firms, can differ substantially. Paralegals often find themselves working long hours on tasks that, while essential, provide little substantive legal experience. The work can be primarily administrative, including document management, scheduling, and other tasks that might not significantly enhance your law school application. Law schools understand the nature of a paralegal’s duties and may not be as impressed as you’d expect. Avoid presuming this is the optimal way to utilize your gap year; it might not be as beneficial as you imagine. If you have paralegal experience, make sure you take the opportunity to learn about the nature of the work the attorneys you interact with daily engage in. The work of a paralegal is not the work of an attorney, but it gives you a close up view of the legal profession if you take the time to look. Your experiences could give credibility to your Why Law? answer, which most applicants, including paralegals, tend to fumble. (See my comments in the discussion below for more on this point.)
Furthermore, the rigorous nature of paralegal work at large firms can encroach on time for other valuable activities, such as studying for the LSAT, crafting your law school application, traveling, or other meaningful experiences you are unlikely to get a chance to pursue once the agonizing torment of...I mean...whoops...the wonderful adventure of 1L begins.
This doesn’t imply that paralegal work lacks value—some indeed find it rewarding and enlightening. However, it’s critical to enter such roles with a clear understanding of the responsibilities involved and realistic expectations about what you’ll gain from the experience. As with any potential gap year activity, evaluate how it aligns with your law school and career goals.
The Final Word: Bridging the Gap and Making it Count
If a gap year is in your future, strategic planning is crucial. Begin by identifying your motivations for a gap year and your expected outcomes. If you’re eager to work, seek roles that align with your interests and provide relevant experiences. If you wish to take a break to travel or pursue other interests, contemplate how these experiences connect back to your law school aspirations.
In short, opting for a gap year before law school is a significant decision with potential advantages and challenges that you should be cognizant of. The actual impact on law school admissions largely relies on how you utilize and present this time in your application.
______
Having undergone the law school journey myself after a gap year—and with years of experience as a law school admissions consultant—I’ve come to realize that a lot of people underestimate the impact their gap year experiences can have on their time in law school.
If any of you have questions about the above or if there are other topics you’re curious about, please feel free to ask—e.g. about my own experience, law school admissions, gap years, etc. FWIW, I have a lot of experience working with splitter applicants in particular, for whom I think the non-LSAT/GPA parts of their application are even more important.
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2023.05.25 16:58 AnnaSpiveyConsulting Spivey Consulting Pro Bono Program 2023-2024 - applications open!
Hi, all; you might see this in lawschooladmissions if you're on there as well, but I wanted to be sure this sub got the announcement too!
Spivey Consulting just posted the application for our annual Pro Bono Consulting Program. The program provides recipients from low-income and diverse backgrounds with free comprehensive assistance with every component of their law school application, working one-on-one with one of our consultants throughout the process. Please consider applying if you're a next cycle (2023-2024) applicant, and feel free to post here or DM me with any questions!
Information/application here: https://www.spiveyconsulting.com/blog-post/pro-bono-consulting-opportunity-2023
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Spivey Consulting just posted the application for our annual Pro Bono Consulting Program. The program provides recipients from low-income and diverse backgrounds with free comprehensive assistance with every component of their law school application, working one-on-one with one of our consultants throughout the process. Please consider applying if you're a next cycle (2023-2024) applicant, and feel free to post here or DM me with any questions!
Information/application here: https://www.spiveyconsulting.com/blog-post/pro-bono-consulting-opportunity-2023
2023.05.24 15:59 auglsatthrowaway Gonna drop another dose of reality tv check on this sub
If you think going to law school is an easy way to be selected for ABC's flagship reality TV show the Bachelor, frankly you're deluded. Thousands of people apply every year in pursuit of lucrative Instagram sponsorships true love, and you think there's still room for you?
At this point, it's not about what quirky limo entrance you have planned, or what oddly personal anecdote you plan on divulging to the Bachelo Bachelorette on your first one-on-one date. These spots just don't exist anymore. Do you really think 31 hot people want to hear about your "95th percentile LSAT that would've been a 170+ if the proctor didn't cut me off during LR?" Will the lead bother trying to learn what a "V10" or "unicorn PI" is during a pool party surrounded by contestants built like Greek deities? Absolutely not.
"B-b-but Rachel Lindsay and Andi Dorfman were both lawyers and they got to be the Bachelorette after making it to hometowns!!!"
Just because you have some anecdotes of people who succeeded despite their occupation doesn't mean you're capable of doing the same. These are outlier cases. Every successful Bachelor contestant with a law background shares a trait rarely found on lawschooladmissions -- not being insufferable. You can't assume you'll do better than medians. Realistically, you'll be more like Jay Resmini (who? exactly), a fellow lawyer eliminated on night one in season 6.
To be brutally honest, you're much better off pursuing any number of other illustrious Bachelor careers to get noticed by casting directors. At least "former child" and "aspiring dolphin trainer" don't come with hundreds of thousands in student debt.
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At this point, it's not about what quirky limo entrance you have planned, or what oddly personal anecdote you plan on divulging to the Bachelo Bachelorette on your first one-on-one date. These spots just don't exist anymore. Do you really think 31 hot people want to hear about your "95th percentile LSAT that would've been a 170+ if the proctor didn't cut me off during LR?" Will the lead bother trying to learn what a "V10" or "unicorn PI" is during a pool party surrounded by contestants built like Greek deities? Absolutely not.
"B-b-but Rachel Lindsay and Andi Dorfman were both lawyers and they got to be the Bachelorette after making it to hometowns!!!"
Just because you have some anecdotes of people who succeeded despite their occupation doesn't mean you're capable of doing the same. These are outlier cases. Every successful Bachelor contestant with a law background shares a trait rarely found on lawschooladmissions -- not being insufferable. You can't assume you'll do better than medians. Realistically, you'll be more like Jay Resmini (who? exactly), a fellow lawyer eliminated on night one in season 6.
To be brutally honest, you're much better off pursuing any number of other illustrious Bachelor careers to get noticed by casting directors. At least "former child" and "aspiring dolphin trainer" don't come with hundreds of thousands in student debt.
2023.05.23 12:00 AutoModerator 0L Tuesday Thread
Welcome to the 0L Tuesday thread. Please ask pre-law questions here (such as admissions, which school to pick, what law school/practice is like etc.)
Read the FAQ. Use the search function. Make sure to list as much pertinent information as possible (financial situation, where your family is, what you want to do with a law degree, etc.). If you have questions about jargon, check out the abbreviations glossary.
If you have any pre-law questions, feel free join our Discord Server and ask questions in the 0L channel.
Related Links:
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Read the FAQ. Use the search function. Make sure to list as much pertinent information as possible (financial situation, where your family is, what you want to do with a law degree, etc.). If you have questions about jargon, check out the abbreviations glossary.
If you have any pre-law questions, feel free join our Discord Server and ask questions in the 0L channel.
Related Links:
- Official LSAC Admissions Calculator (self explanatory, presumably sources data from previous admissions cycles, likely larger pool of data too. Useful for non-splitters).
- Unofficial LSN Admissions Calculator (uses crowdsourced LSN data to calculate % admissions chances).
- Law School Numbers (for admissions graphs and crowdsourced admissions data).
- LST Score Reports (for jobs data for individual schools)
- List of Guides and Other Useful Content for Rising 1Ls
- TLS Biglaw Placement Class of 2016 TLS Biglaw Placement Class of 2015 NLJ250 Class of 2010 NLJ250 Class of 2009 NLJ250 Class of 2008 NLJ250 Class of 2007 NLJ250 Class of 2005
- /LawSchoolAdmissions 2016 Biglaw and Employment Data (includes 200 law schools)
- TLS School Medians Class of 2020.
2023.05.17 09:03 moonstonedleft omg thankful to this subreddit for existing
i have a little less than a month left before i take the lsat for the final time & i have been SO SO SO SO anxious bc i’ve been deep in the rabbit hole on ~a certain subreddit~ and also linkedin seeing all these ppl get into HYS and stuff. bc life happened (extreme trauma my first two years of college) my uGPA is trash & everything was giving me signs that i can’t get into law school
literally was scrolling thru lawschooladmissions because of my stress insomnia & i was wondering why i was getting more & more anxious LMAO
finding this subreddit was a godsend. i need to remember that not going to a t14 does not mean i am a failure. & thank u to this subreddit for helping me ground myself in that in the first 10 minutes i scrolled thru in here <3
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literally was scrolling thru lawschooladmissions because of my stress insomnia & i was wondering why i was getting more & more anxious LMAO
finding this subreddit was a godsend. i need to remember that not going to a t14 does not mean i am a failure. & thank u to this subreddit for helping me ground myself in that in the first 10 minutes i scrolled thru in here <3
2023.05.17 05:24 AWanderingET Cycle update of dreams: HLS WL to A
Still in shock. Had to re-check phone log and status checker to be sure this actually happened, then have my partner check just in case I missed something. Feeling so incredibly blessed, lucky, and excited.
Original cycle recap here
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Original cycle recap here
2023.05.16 12:00 AutoModerator 0L Tuesday Thread
Welcome to the 0L Tuesday thread. Please ask pre-law questions here (such as admissions, which school to pick, what law school/practice is like etc.)
Read the FAQ. Use the search function. Make sure to list as much pertinent information as possible (financial situation, where your family is, what you want to do with a law degree, etc.). If you have questions about jargon, check out the abbreviations glossary.
If you have any pre-law questions, feel free join our Discord Server and ask questions in the 0L channel.
Related Links:
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Read the FAQ. Use the search function. Make sure to list as much pertinent information as possible (financial situation, where your family is, what you want to do with a law degree, etc.). If you have questions about jargon, check out the abbreviations glossary.
If you have any pre-law questions, feel free join our Discord Server and ask questions in the 0L channel.
Related Links:
- Official LSAC Admissions Calculator (self explanatory, presumably sources data from previous admissions cycles, likely larger pool of data too. Useful for non-splitters).
- Unofficial LSN Admissions Calculator (uses crowdsourced LSN data to calculate % admissions chances).
- Law School Numbers (for admissions graphs and crowdsourced admissions data).
- LST Score Reports (for jobs data for individual schools)
- List of Guides and Other Useful Content for Rising 1Ls
- TLS Biglaw Placement Class of 2016 TLS Biglaw Placement Class of 2015 NLJ250 Class of 2010 NLJ250 Class of 2009 NLJ250 Class of 2008 NLJ250 Class of 2007 NLJ250 Class of 2005
- /LawSchoolAdmissions 2016 Biglaw and Employment Data (includes 200 law schools)
- TLS School Medians Class of 2020.
2023.05.14 22:04 prelawstruggle Super KJD & Reverse Splitter - URM Cycle Recap - HLS Bound!
I made a recap but was still waiting on some schools and wasn't fully done with my cycle so I deleted it. Here is the link to my mid-cycle recap as well if you are interested!
Stats/Softs:
GPA/LSAT: 4.19 / 165 (took LSAT twice 163 -> 165), URM (AA Male), L(G)BTQ+, First Generation Immigrant
Graduating one year early // Worked 3 Part-time Jobs throughout all 3 years of UG // Semi-unique undergrad experience working as a Legal Advocate for the last year and a half // President of 3 Orgs (active in them all 3 years) // Overcame Childhood Adversity (multiple hate crimes & family illness) // Created a Mentorship Program that matched current Black law students with black pre-law students on my campus // Devoted a lot of time trying to make my resume, PS, & DS all cohesive with a central theme // Won multiple UG leadership & service awards // Very strong relationship with all three of my Recommenders (I have their numbers and I talk about anything with them)
Results:
Link to LSData: https://www.lsd.law/users/creep/prelawstruggle77
Link For Details on Supplementals & Dates - https://www.lsd.law/users/creep/prelawstruggle77
Will also be doing the SEO Fellowship Program this summer with a Firm in NYC!
Scholarships
HLS LOCI
Reflections:
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Stats/Softs:
GPA/LSAT: 4.19 / 165 (took LSAT twice 163 -> 165), URM (AA Male), L(G)BTQ+, First Generation Immigrant
Graduating one year early // Worked 3 Part-time Jobs throughout all 3 years of UG // Semi-unique undergrad experience working as a Legal Advocate for the last year and a half // President of 3 Orgs (active in them all 3 years) // Overcame Childhood Adversity (multiple hate crimes & family illness) // Created a Mentorship Program that matched current Black law students with black pre-law students on my campus // Devoted a lot of time trying to make my resume, PS, & DS all cohesive with a central theme // Won multiple UG leadership & service awards // Very strong relationship with all three of my Recommenders (I have their numbers and I talk about anything with them)
Results:
Link to LSData: https://www.lsd.law/users/creep/prelawstruggle77
Link For Details on Supplementals & Dates - https://www.lsd.law/users/creep/prelawstruggle77
Will also be doing the SEO Fellowship Program this summer with a Firm in NYC!
Scholarships
- HLS (?), Columbia ($+), Penn ($$$+), NYU ($$), UVA - Karsh-Dillard ($$$$), UC Berkeley ($$+), UMich - ($$$$), Duke ($$$+), Cornell ($+), Northwestern ($$$+), GULC ($$), UCLA ($$+), WashU - ($$$$+), Vandy ($$$+), USC ($$$), ASU ($$), Fordham ($$+), Howard ($$$$)
- Mich Started with 60k Total (20k Per Year) and I sent them Karsh-Dillard & WashU Full Ride and they upped to a full tuition scholarship. Was legitimately shocked by this since the email they sent me in the initial award said I could actually try for reconsideration but last year they only adjusted 5 offers.
- Tried to visit their school after they gave a full ride for Preview 1 and was WL for ASD.... did not get off it either.
- Berk was initially 0 then I applied for reconsideration with UMich Full Ride and they upped to ($$)
- Columbia asks for awards upfront so I initially sent them Karsh-Dillard, UMich Full, WashU, NYU $$, & Penn Dean's Scholarship Invitation and they still gave me 40k Total lol. I did also ask for my award to come before the April 17th deadline so not sure if they even looked at my other offers
- I deposited soon after since I wanted to know ASAP if I got SEO Summer Fellowship or not so that I can plan my summer (got it!)
- I applied for reconsideration emphasizing UVA & Mich's offers on 4/9
- Technically lost some leverage since I deposited already but still holding out hope. Also weirdly enough Columbia has a refund policy for their deposits so it doesn't even seem as "locked-in" compared to other schools with much more binding language.
- Also manifesting new USWN makes CLS open their purse a lil more heh (it won't but a man can dream) update - it did not lol.
- Penn Reached out on 4/20 asking how much it would take to commit. I said $$$+, Director said the max he could do was half tuition. I then said to take it to the committee and gave some updates over email right after the call to bring up during committee.
- Penn the next day gave me $$$+ and said I had 48 hours to respond.
- Which I then sent to CLS and asked to reneg for the third time. They said they would try to honor my deadline but that recon often takes a while...
- 2.5 hours later after that call they increased my scholy from 40k -> 90k
- Also, I had already deposited, applied for housing, and activated my email before this (so don't think you can't negotiate even after depositing for certain schools!)
- I sent every application in November
- I wrote the Stanford Optional - ( class I would teach & 3 Songs), GULC Optional - (Top 10 List (with small anecdotes for each line), Columbia - Fun Facts, Why Cornell but within the character limit, UVA Resilience Prompt, UPenn Core Strengths, Why Berkeley, UMich - Something others may not know about you optional, NW Kira, UCLA Pragmatic Contribution, Why USC
- I did no other Why X's apart from Berk & USC. So to that extent, I do think schools mean it when they say those are optional. But any listed supplemental prompts I did do.
- I applied to BU but after holding me for fall grades (when I had 4.16) and then ghosting me a month after receiving them, I figured it best to cut my losses and withdraw.
- The status kept refreshing though so I deleted it from my LSData.
- My moto this cycle was fee waiver & t20 = apply.
- Interviewed at Vandy, WashU, GULC, UVA, Harvard, & UChicago. As well as Cornell & NU KIRA.
- Accepted my spot on Harvard's & Yale WL's
- Sent (in my opinion) solid LOCIs, both had valuable updates and for HLS specifically, I reached out to their BLSA and QTPOC to talk with them and included that in my LOCI as well.
- Harvard Feeler Call was on May 8 and A call was the next day with 24 hours to accept.
- I literally started hyperventilating during the feeler and Kristi told me to calm down, was a bit embarrassing 😅. She congratulated me on SEO & being commencement speaker for my college which was nice. Asked if I knew about 24 hours to commit, if I would accept an offer from them, and any other concerns I may have that would lead me to say no.
HLS LOCI
Reflections:
- I think for a lot of reasons I was really scared going into this cycle of my outcomes. The two largest being, that I was 20 when submitting apps & "low" LSAT but very happy I did not R & R or "waste my GPA" (as many people said I would be doing fall of last year)
- Fall 2022 was honestly one of the worst times of my life, even with front-loading all my essays during the summer, retaking the LSAT in October on top of clubs, classes, & work was very humbling
- I fully regret applying to 24 schools. Very happy I blanketed T-14 for scholy neg but I definitely had 4-5 panic apps. I was honestly convinced I was going to be e'd across t-20 lol.
- I go back and forth a lot on whether I enjoyed my time on the sub, and it's not to say that there weren't amazing resources, people, and information that I got. But the toxic parts of it definitely affected my mental health a BUNCH Nov-Jan. I have stepped away from LSA past few months and it has genuinely helped so much and would advise future applicants to really work to limit their time here. There are positive resources to be gained but so much toxicity, stress, and racism which can really hinder your self-perception/worth. Some people simply have very negative intentions with their comments and posts and reading post after post during my cycle definitely had a negative impact on my mental health😭.
- Visited both UVA & CLS during ASD and loved both schools a lot but literally fell in love with New York and UWS. Columbia just felt honestly amazing and every concern I had about the school was fully addressed during the visit.
- I originally was committed to CLS due to having family support & funds to not stress too much about the cost difference between them and UVA KD. As well as loving NYC so much and wanting to be in a new area for law school. Also once CLS increased its offer it really made the commitment much easier.
- When I got the HLS feeler it literally was WIPLASH. I was obviously very excited and said yes 100% during the call and realized that it would likely be little to no grant aid from them.
- Very very lucky to have familial support so that I won't be for paying HLS sticker and I am so excited to be done with the cycle! I highly recommend going through financials before you accept a spot on the WL since it seems common practice to have to expect sticker with a fast turnaround time to accept the seat.
- Withdrew from SLS WL since I don't like the west coast/can't see myself there + I don't plan to live there after law school.
- Do not be afraid to ask for things. Fee waiver, meeting with admissions, more scholy.
- Some people will give bad or non-applicable advice. Take what you need and ignore what you don't need/think is pertinent. I had 2 different people tell me to scrap the full first page of my PS since "it's too sad" and "doesn't focus on my accomplishments", and to this day I'm glad I ignored that suggestion.
- I think a lot of people also tend to give advice or recommendations based on their own lived experiences/goals which are always important to take into account especially when asking about what law school to commit to.
- Trust yourself and use good judgment! There is a time and place for venting & complaining and make sure you do it in a safe place/medium that won't come back to bite you.
- Don't internalize rejections/WL as reflections of your worth/value, at the end of the day these schools get significantly more qualified applicants than seats to fill.
- I am such a strong believer in everything happens for a reason!!! It genuinely will all work out and looking back I am so happy my cycle shook out the way it did.
- Please feel free to make a copy of this folder and take and use these for your future cycles! A lot of the resources were a 10/10 and helped me in some way shape or form :) https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZT3YIRwR4Z9WN2F3wUPbc67COvTsUuxG?usp=sharing
2023.05.14 02:44 Successful_Brief6856 Highest student loan interest rates in a decade. Plan accordingly.
Politico: Federal student loan interest rates rise to highest in a decade
I made a post about this a few months ago and it looks like my predictions came true, unfortunately. Interest rates on student loans will be the highest they have been in a generation.
Direct unsubsidized loans will have a 7.05% rate and Grad Plus loans will be 8.05%. That's an increase of 0.51% from last year's rates. For context, that means taking out $50K of loans for this coming year of school would turn into over $60K of debt by the time you graduate.
Below are my tips from my previous post, copied here for your convenience:
What can I do to deal with a higher cost of borrowing?
The takeaway is not that loans are going to be completely unaffordable. A 0.5% increase in interest rates for 100K of debt on a 10-year repayment schedule may add several thousand dollars of interest to your total repayment and maybe increase your monthly payment by a few hundred dollars at most. This is not insurmountable, but certainly a nontrivial increase in your debt repayment and something you should consider in your decision-making.
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I made a post about this a few months ago and it looks like my predictions came true, unfortunately. Interest rates on student loans will be the highest they have been in a generation.
Direct unsubsidized loans will have a 7.05% rate and Grad Plus loans will be 8.05%. That's an increase of 0.51% from last year's rates. For context, that means taking out $50K of loans for this coming year of school would turn into over $60K of debt by the time you graduate.
Below are my tips from my previous post, copied here for your convenience:
What can I do to deal with a higher cost of borrowing?
- Take out less debt, obviously.
- Probably self-explanatory.
- Borrow less at the beginning of law school and more towards at the end.
- If you have savings, you might be tempted to spread it equally across all three years. It actually makes more sense to spend more of your savings in 1L, reducing the amount of loans you take out in the beginning and borrowing more in 2L or 3L.
- Interest accrues while you're in school, so even if you borrow the same total amount, you'll have less total debt when you graduate because less interest will accrue on your smaller 1L debt over your three years in school.
- Compare interest rates with private lenders (but proceed with caution).
- If you have good credit, you may be able to find a lower interest rate loan with a private lender. However, there are risks - private lenders usually have less flexible loan terms and these loans won't be eligible for income-based repayment plans or public service loan forgiveness. Make sure to read the fine print and compare carefully. In most cases, federal loans will still be superior to private loans.
- Refinance your debt when interest rates eventually come down.
- Interest rates go up and down over time. Eventually, inflation will cool off, JPowell will take his foot off the gas, and interest rates will come down. Once that happens, you can refinance your debt with a private lender at a lower interest rate, which can save you money. Just make sure to read the fine print, as refinanced private loans won't be eligible for income-driven repayment or any federal loan forgiveness.
The takeaway is not that loans are going to be completely unaffordable. A 0.5% increase in interest rates for 100K of debt on a 10-year repayment schedule may add several thousand dollars of interest to your total repayment and maybe increase your monthly payment by a few hundred dollars at most. This is not insurmountable, but certainly a nontrivial increase in your debt repayment and something you should consider in your decision-making.
2023.05.13 03:22 erzezhifu TRULY prioritizing outcomes: another T30 ranking here. median and 25th private sector salary included
https://preview.redd.it/ske1013a0iza1.png?width=196&format=png&auto=webp&s=d7907fea9bd0fc7941121ddc81fce5a3763110e6
methodology:
12 percent lawyejudge assessment
10 percent ten month employment
5 percent first time bar passage rate
2 percent student/faculty ratio, 3 percent exam, 2.5 percent GPA, 2.5 percent acceptance rate
20 percent Biglaw/private sector rate
5 percent FC
3 percent PI+Gov
17.5 percent median private sector salary
17.5 percent 25th private sector salary
The raw scores are also presented here! I only ranked T50 on my Excel sheet, so number 50 has a 0 raw score.
Data is mostly from last year's(instead of last year's) US News ranking and last year's ABA employment reports. A number of schools' median/25th salary levels increased substantially this year due to the ultra hot legal market, and i do not want those numbers to inflate their ranking. I'm open to any criticism!
For the Biglaw/private rate, I used u/legitimate_Twist 's data here: https://www.reddit.com/lawschooladmissions/comments/s1xp24/another_way_of_looking_at_biglaw_placements_by/
this data (probably) does not discriminate PI heavy schools.
schools not included in this data(like Texas A&M and Villanova) are not included in this ranking. UC Hastings is not included in the calculation either because I do not have their median/25th salary numbers from last year.
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https://preview.redd.it/ske1013a0iza1.png?width=196&format=png&auto=webp&s=d7907fea9bd0fc7941121ddc81fce5a3763110e6
methodology:
12 percent lawyejudge assessment
10 percent ten month employment
5 percent first time bar passage rate
2 percent student/faculty ratio, 3 percent exam, 2.5 percent GPA, 2.5 percent acceptance rate
20 percent Biglaw/private sector rate
5 percent FC
3 percent PI+Gov
17.5 percent median private sector salary
17.5 percent 25th private sector salary
The raw scores are also presented here! I only ranked T50 on my Excel sheet, so number 50 has a 0 raw score.
Data is mostly from last year's(instead of last year's) US News ranking and last year's ABA employment reports. A number of schools' median/25th salary levels increased substantially this year due to the ultra hot legal market, and i do not want those numbers to inflate their ranking. I'm open to any criticism!
For the Biglaw/private rate, I used u/legitimate_Twist 's data here: https://www.reddit.com/lawschooladmissions/comments/s1xp24/another_way_of_looking_at_biglaw_placements_by/
this data (probably) does not discriminate PI heavy schools.
schools not included in this data(like Texas A&M and Villanova) are not included in this ranking. UC Hastings is not included in the calculation either because I do not have their median/25th salary numbers from last year.
2023.05.12 23:28 A_H_313_ Gubment
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2023.05.11 19:09 Worldly-Royal-4510 admissions anxiety
Hello, I asked this same question on lawschooladmissions and I got some very nasty and disheartening responses from the self-righteous t14 silver spoon kids. my question is "I am not the greatest at standardized tests (I know the bar is one but that's a problem for later). I scored a 142 on my LSAT but I have a 3.93 UGPA. Is all hope lost for an accredited law school? outside of taking the LSAT again, what are my options for schools?"
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2023.05.11 19:06 erzezhifu Reddit's ranking T30 made! Do u think this is a better T30?
https://preview.redd.it/b8wnh4sbh8za1.png?width=440&format=png&auto=webp&s=e8061c4ebb23a062b312c6b5e15adfbfa0c1b3c4
methodology: peer assessment 15 percent, lawyejudge 15 percent, 10 month employment 15 percent, first time bar 5 percent, student faculty ratio 3 percent, LSAT 8 percent, GPA 7 percent, acceptance rate 2 percent, Biglaw/Private rate 20 percent, FC 5 percent, PI+gov 5 percent
data mostly from last year. peelawyejudge are from last year's USNEWS ranking
For the Biglaw/private rate, I used u/legitimate_Twist 's data here: https://www.reddit.com/lawschooladmissions/comments/s1xp24/another_way_of_looking_at_biglaw_placements_by/
schools not included in this data(like Texas A&M and Villanova) are not included in this ranking
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https://preview.redd.it/b8wnh4sbh8za1.png?width=440&format=png&auto=webp&s=e8061c4ebb23a062b312c6b5e15adfbfa0c1b3c4
methodology: peer assessment 15 percent, lawyejudge 15 percent, 10 month employment 15 percent, first time bar 5 percent, student faculty ratio 3 percent, LSAT 8 percent, GPA 7 percent, acceptance rate 2 percent, Biglaw/Private rate 20 percent, FC 5 percent, PI+gov 5 percent
data mostly from last year. peelawyejudge are from last year's USNEWS ranking
For the Biglaw/private rate, I used u/legitimate_Twist 's data here: https://www.reddit.com/lawschooladmissions/comments/s1xp24/another_way_of_looking_at_biglaw_placements_by/
schools not included in this data(like Texas A&M and Villanova) are not included in this ranking
2023.05.11 17:13 SpacemanDan The Average Minnesota Enjoyer has logged on
Hi there! I can tell from my group chats and the white-hot steam emanating from every electronic device connected to the internet that the latest USNWR Rankings† have dropped. Apparently my alma mater, the University of Minnesota Law School, has done quite well. Some people like this! Some people think it's "absurd." Some have even gone so far as to call it "dangerous."
† A thing that literally only law school applicants and their parents care about. No literally, you might joke about your own school's ranking now and then, but no one takes USNWR seriously once you enroll.
You may be wondering how a humble land grant school from a Midwestern state has done so well compared to more storied public institutions, a Midwestern Catholic college most notable for producing christofascist judges and their C.H.U.D. clerks, a school in Atlanta with famously inflated employment numbers, and a new school in California that spent years gaming the USNWR system to build its reputation.
EDIT: I can't believe I have to add this, but I didn't mean the prior paragraph to come off as slagging those schools or the students who go there. It was intended to interrogate the ways this subreddit talks about certain schools, and the biases or arbitrary perceptions we carry about schools compared to certain contextualizing details. If you went to NDL, great. Emory and UCI are good schools. Whatever. But there is a wide range of acceptable choices for where you go to school. Federal clerkships and BigLaw are not the full story of the legal profession. If you're happy with your choice, though, I'm happy. Unless you went to NDL to clerk for a bigoted, abortion-hating federal judge. Then you can get stuffed.
Well that sign can't stop me because I can't read! I refuse to waste my life puzzling over the USNWR methodology that only serves to perpetuate the elitism and gatekeeping of our profession. Instead, I want to tell you why Minnesota Law is a great place to go.
Let's start with your career outcomes:
Here's why you can believe me: I'm not from Minnesota. I moved to Minnesota from Boston at age 30 to attend law school here, in part based on a lot of good advice I got here in lawschooladmissions. I've lived a bunch of places and Minnesota is a good place to live. Lots of Minnesotans have a real case of brain worms about the exceptionalism of their state. While it's incredibly annoying, they are kind of on to something.
So, if you're going to slag Minnesota Law just because it exists outside of a half-dozen major cities, roughly between D.C. and L.A.? Go ahead. If you want to put it down because you're not used to seeing it above an arbitrary line in an arbitrary list of barely scientific rankings? Go ahead.
But if you want to go to a school full of good people who do great things, with staff and faculty that really and truly care about their students, in a state that cares about its people and is always trying to do better?
Well, consider the Gopher.
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† A thing that literally only law school applicants and their parents care about. No literally, you might joke about your own school's ranking now and then, but no one takes USNWR seriously once you enroll.
You may be wondering how a humble land grant school from a Midwestern state has done so well compared to more storied public institutions, a Midwestern Catholic college most notable for producing christofascist judges and their C.H.U.D. clerks, a school in Atlanta with famously inflated employment numbers, and a new school in California that spent years gaming the USNWR system to build its reputation.
EDIT: I can't believe I have to add this, but I didn't mean the prior paragraph to come off as slagging those schools or the students who go there. It was intended to interrogate the ways this subreddit talks about certain schools, and the biases or arbitrary perceptions we carry about schools compared to certain contextualizing details. If you went to NDL, great. Emory and UCI are good schools. Whatever. But there is a wide range of acceptable choices for where you go to school. Federal clerkships and BigLaw are not the full story of the legal profession. If you're happy with your choice, though, I'm happy. Unless you went to NDL to clerk for a bigoted, abortion-hating federal judge. Then you can get stuffed.
Well that sign can't stop me because I can't read! I refuse to waste my life puzzling over the USNWR methodology that only serves to perpetuate the elitism and gatekeeping of our profession. Instead, I want to tell you why Minnesota Law is a great place to go.
Let's start with your career outcomes:
- My class (the most recent one for which data is available) had great employment outcomes. 98% of us have jobs or continued graduate studies. 92% were straight-up bar passage required (as opposed to some schools which rely on J.D. advantage jobs to goose their numbers) and only 1 person had a university-funded position (*coughcoughEmorycoughcough*).
- 10% of the class went straight up BigLaw. I know at least one person who went to a V3 firm, and another who's deferring his offer at Hogan Lovells to clerk.
- While BigLaw gets all the press, don't forget to take markets into account. Minnesota has a lot of regional MidLaw employment that's still in firms of 100 or more and pays close to (if not on) the Cravath scale. Including those people puts 23% of our class in highly remunerative firm jobs.
- We also cranked out 10 federal clerkships and 44 state clerkships. While appellate clerkships are not broken out separately, UMN does very well with our state appellate courts.
Here's why you can believe me: I'm not from Minnesota. I moved to Minnesota from Boston at age 30 to attend law school here, in part based on a lot of good advice I got here in lawschooladmissions. I've lived a bunch of places and Minnesota is a good place to live. Lots of Minnesotans have a real case of brain worms about the exceptionalism of their state. While it's incredibly annoying, they are kind of on to something.
- We have the highest life expectancy in the country.
- The average home price is less than $260,000. Even if you only consider the Twin Cities, Minneapolis has an average price of $330k and St. Paul (which is approximately 10 feet away) has an average price at $266k. I personally know a half-dozen people who bought nice starter homes in the year following school.
- The Twin Cities have an incredible parks systems, good and always-improving bike infrastructure, and a very good public transit system. There's so much outdoor recreation—lakes, parks, bike paths, river roads—within a 5 or 10 minute walk of wherever you happen to be in the cities. We have free concerts, street festivals, and a beloved State Fair that will boggle the mind of anyone who didn't grow up in the Midwest.
- Our state government has passed laws to proactively and aggressively protect rights that conservatives are seeking to take away. We codified abortion protections, restored the right to vote for people with felony convictions, we banned conversion therapy, and we're about to legalize cannabis and expunge old pot convictions. We also updated our anti-discrimination laws, which already go beyond federal protections, to specifically outlaw race-based discrimination centered on hair texture and styles.
- If that wasn't enough, Minnesota has drawn a line in the stand with the hateful policies of other states. We passed a law that prevents other state's courts from reaching into Minnesota to punish people who get abortions or doctors who provide them. We also enacted legislation to become a "trans refuge" state, protecting people who come to Minnesota for gender-affirm the care, and the doctors that help them.
So, if you're going to slag Minnesota Law just because it exists outside of a half-dozen major cities, roughly between D.C. and L.A.? Go ahead. If you want to put it down because you're not used to seeing it above an arbitrary line in an arbitrary list of barely scientific rankings? Go ahead.
But if you want to go to a school full of good people who do great things, with staff and faculty that really and truly care about their students, in a state that cares about its people and is always trying to do better?
Well, consider the Gopher.
2023.05.11 17:00 Apprehensive_Fig2099 (VOTE) Reddit Law School Rankings 2023-2024
Since yesterday, there has been an understandable amount of buzz and conversation surrounding USNWR’s new law school rankings.
I think we can all agree that USNWR is on one and these rankings are especially bad this year. Rather than having a discussion on what metrics are most appropriate for them to use for their rankings, I have decided to turn to the experts - lawschooladmissions.
I frequent CFB, and there they have a system where Reddit users can submit their own ‘ballot’ for the top 25 teams to create a ranking. So I have decided to do something similar for law school rankings. These rankings are AP Poll style.
How this will work:
You will vote for the top 25 law schools in the country. Ranking a school #1 awards the school 25 points. Ranking a school #2 awards the school 24 points… Ranking a school #25 awards the school 1 point.
Rules:
Link to a Sheet where I will track submissions periodically: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U7-7SkgI6Alkn9MTozefd4TT5tBLSkguvPtAdoPMmok/edit?usp=sharing
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I think we can all agree that USNWR is on one and these rankings are especially bad this year. Rather than having a discussion on what metrics are most appropriate for them to use for their rankings, I have decided to turn to the experts - lawschooladmissions.
I frequent CFB, and there they have a system where Reddit users can submit their own ‘ballot’ for the top 25 teams to create a ranking. So I have decided to do something similar for law school rankings. These rankings are AP Poll style.
How this will work:
You will vote for the top 25 law schools in the country. Ranking a school #1 awards the school 25 points. Ranking a school #2 awards the school 24 points… Ranking a school #25 awards the school 1 point.
Rules:
- Ranking a school in more than one slot (e.g. ranking Yale both #1 and #2) makes the ballot invalid.
- Incomplete ballots are invalid.
- Absolute freedom to rank schools how you want. Makes it more fun, just be reasonably legit.
Link to a Sheet where I will track submissions periodically: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U7-7SkgI6Alkn9MTozefd4TT5tBLSkguvPtAdoPMmok/edit?usp=sharing
2023.05.11 13:01 FiercelyReality LOL, r/lawschooladmissions losing their mind
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2023.05.10 15:20 BoardIndividual7367 Toxic Culture of r/lawschooladmissions
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2023.05.08 15:34 keret35 PSA: Tell all family and friends that you won't hear from any schools until March/April
Hi everyone! This post was well-received last year, so i'm reposting now for all of you new lawschooladmissions users starting your cycles soon. I am now a 1L at a T30 who has done very well, but I was a reverse splitter and I got waitlisted/rejected at many schools. This advice saved my mental health and allowed me to distance my cycle from the people around me, which is very important for you to do. Here it is:
For those yet to apply to law schools who are browsing this sub:
At the beginning of this process, I told all of my family and friends that I wouldn't be hearing from any schools until March. This does two things. First, and most importantly, it completely eliminates the constant "have you heard from any schools yet?" This question can be completely demoralizing after receiving a R or a W, especially from people who are counting on you to get in somewhere. Secondly, any A you receive earlier than March becomes a pleasant surprise to them. Especially in a cycle like this, one small thing could save you boatloads of stress. Although it is a rolling admissions process, you literally may not be lying. I applied in October and didn't hear until mid-february even from my safety schools. This strategy allows you to give everyone the good news all at once "Yeah, I didn't get in here, but i'm attending ________!" rather than laboring over every single admissions decision with your family.
Good luck to everyone with their admissions journey! Law school is often exhausting and stressful. Conversely, i've met some of the smartest/most interesting people here, and i've learned so much in just one year. I don't regret it for a second. Shoot for the stars!
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For those yet to apply to law schools who are browsing this sub:
At the beginning of this process, I told all of my family and friends that I wouldn't be hearing from any schools until March. This does two things. First, and most importantly, it completely eliminates the constant "have you heard from any schools yet?" This question can be completely demoralizing after receiving a R or a W, especially from people who are counting on you to get in somewhere. Secondly, any A you receive earlier than March becomes a pleasant surprise to them. Especially in a cycle like this, one small thing could save you boatloads of stress. Although it is a rolling admissions process, you literally may not be lying. I applied in October and didn't hear until mid-february even from my safety schools. This strategy allows you to give everyone the good news all at once "Yeah, I didn't get in here, but i'm attending ________!" rather than laboring over every single admissions decision with your family.
Good luck to everyone with their admissions journey! Law school is often exhausting and stressful. Conversely, i've met some of the smartest/most interesting people here, and i've learned so much in just one year. I don't regret it for a second. Shoot for the stars!
2023.05.05 19:35 ApolloTestPrep Try the first-ever AI LSAT coach!
Hey everyone!
I spent a ton of time on LSAT and lawschooladmissions back when I was studying in 2019, so I thought you all should be the first to know about a super cool project I’ve been working on: the first (as far as I know) AI LSAT coach in the world, Daphne.
It’s currently built into Apollo Test Prep’s Logical Reasoning Course, where it explains problems to you after you’ve finished a problem set, allowing follow-up questions to explanations and thus much more natural, conversational learning.
If you want to come play with the AI coach without getting the course, it’s currently available here. (easier to use on desktop for now)
This was a lot of fun to work on, and made me very excited about generative AI like GPT-4 and the future of the test prep industry.
If you’re interested in AI, here’s my blog post on what I learned building and experimenting with this technology, its benefits and limitations, plus some predictions about what might be next for AI tutoring/coaching.
This is definitely still in beta, so if you get any interesting/funny responses from Daphne, I’d love to see them in the comments!
Cheers, Daniel
P.S: Here’s an amazing TED talk from Sal Khan of Khan Academy talking about AI tutoring and the future of education in general
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I spent a ton of time on LSAT and lawschooladmissions back when I was studying in 2019, so I thought you all should be the first to know about a super cool project I’ve been working on: the first (as far as I know) AI LSAT coach in the world, Daphne.
It’s currently built into Apollo Test Prep’s Logical Reasoning Course, where it explains problems to you after you’ve finished a problem set, allowing follow-up questions to explanations and thus much more natural, conversational learning.
If you want to come play with the AI coach without getting the course, it’s currently available here. (easier to use on desktop for now)
This was a lot of fun to work on, and made me very excited about generative AI like GPT-4 and the future of the test prep industry.
If you’re interested in AI, here’s my blog post on what I learned building and experimenting with this technology, its benefits and limitations, plus some predictions about what might be next for AI tutoring/coaching.
This is definitely still in beta, so if you get any interesting/funny responses from Daphne, I’d love to see them in the comments!
Cheers, Daniel
P.S: Here’s an amazing TED talk from Sal Khan of Khan Academy talking about AI tutoring and the future of education in general
2023.05.03 16:14 Universe1006 WWYD: BC vs. Emory? With context!
Woke up and excitedly found Emory A email with $$+ after being ghosted for nearly 7 months. Deposit is due on May 10. Looking for some advice!!
Goal: Need H1B, so kind of BL or bust. No location preference.
Saving: 220k
BC
Pros: A little bit better BL+FC outcome(5%ish higher). Better location for BL.
Cons: 64k more expensive for 3 years.
Emory
Pros: Cheaper. Warmer weather. Potentially more prestige with higher ranking if I cannot secure my visa and need to return to my home country.
Cons: Slightly lower BL+FC rate. Hearsay about bad career center. Worry about discrimination as an Asian. “This school managed to openly discriminate against all asian kids 2 hours into the international student orientation in 2018.” And Atlanta is kind of more dangerous.
BL(251+) and FC rate
BC-Emory
2022: 46%-43%
2021: 47%-40%
2020: 39%-37%
2019: 43%-30%
2018: 38%-33%
Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance.
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Goal: Need H1B, so kind of BL or bust. No location preference.
Saving: 220k
BC
Pros: A little bit better BL+FC outcome(5%ish higher). Better location for BL.
Cons: 64k more expensive for 3 years.
Emory
Pros: Cheaper. Warmer weather. Potentially more prestige with higher ranking if I cannot secure my visa and need to return to my home country.
Cons: Slightly lower BL+FC rate. Hearsay about bad career center. Worry about discrimination as an Asian. “This school managed to openly discriminate against all asian kids 2 hours into the international student orientation in 2018.” And Atlanta is kind of more dangerous.
BL(251+) and FC rate
BC-Emory
2022: 46%-43%
2021: 47%-40%
2020: 39%-37%
2019: 43%-30%
2018: 38%-33%
Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance.
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